Camping is one of those things that I don't think the experience of camping in itself is enough to motivate me to want to do it. I mean, I loved camping under the stars when we had to for Kilimanjaro, etc. hikes, but I really didn't love sleeping in the tent and on the ground during Patagonia. It is also more of glamping. I also didn't love glamping in the Tesla with Justin, but it was fine. I didn't hate it and I would do that again because it is convenient to save money in the parks and just wake up there in the lot and hike, but I'd rather not sleep in a trunk or on the ground in a sleeping bag now that I'm older and more pain is setting in. Angie