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To this day, these were the best. When I had Shae and Bertha as my personal massages and when Bertha did the Ashiatsu (used her foot to go deeper and held on to these railings in the ceiling...) She did one in Mcallen Country Club that I remember immediately hearing this pop and feeling like 1000 lbs lighter. My shoulders were more open than ever as an adult and I miss that. Angie